Predicting Weather Using a Persimmon Seed

Winter Weather Folklore


According to weather folklore, you can predict winter weather with a persimmon seed. Here’s how to do it! Plus, enjoy recipes for persimmon pudding and persimmon bread.

Persimmons are small orange fruits the size of a plum. The fruits may be sold anywhere, but the trees usually grow in zones 6 or warmer. 


How to Predict Weather With a Persimmon Seed

Cut open a persimmon seed. (The fruit should be locally-grown to reflect your weather.)

Wait to pick the fruit until it is soft—almost mushy.


Look at the shape of the kernel inside.

  • If the kernel is spoon-shaped, expect plenty of snow to shovel.
  • If it is fork-shaped, plan on a mild winter with powdery, light snow.
  • If the kernel is knife-shaped, expect frigid winds that will “cut” like a blade.

That’s it! Now, cut open a persimmon and tell us what you see. (The answer depends on where you live.)

Here’s a close-up of a spoon. Get out the shovel!

Persimmon Seed Split Open
Photo credit: Tammie Dooley/

Another favorite tradition for predicting winter weather is to use a woolly bear caterpillar.

Or, check out how The Old Farmer’s Almanac predicts the weather!

Persimmon Recipes

Persimmons have a unique fall flavor that is similar to pumpkin. Most persimmons are the “hachiya” variety. The fruit is very tart so it’s often considered a baking fruit, adding its sweet flavor and moistness to pudding, bread, and pie. Persimmons can also be made into dried fruit, jam, ice cream, and even alcohol.

A ripe persimmon has a “squishy” body and a creamy texture. Ripen persimmons at room temperature. Place in a paper bag to speed up ripening.

Persimmon Pudding

Persimmon pudding is a baked dessert with the taste of pumpkin and the texture of gingerbread.  This persimmon pudding recipe is from the “Indiana Nut Growers Cookbook” (1995), courtesy of the Indiana Nutgrowers Association.  


2 Cups persimmon pulp
2 Cups sugar
3 small eggs
½ stick (4 Tablespoons) margarine
1 teaspoon baking soda
½ Cup buttermilk
1-¾ Cups sweet cream (or milk)
1 teaspoon cinnamon
2 Tablespoons additional persimmon pulp
1-¾ Cups flour
1 teaspoon baking powder


  1. Mix together the persimmon pulp, sugar and eggs.  
  2. Mix baking soda with buttermilk and add to mixture in bowl.  
  3. Melt margarine in baking pan and add to mixture.
  4. Sift flour and baking powder together and add alternately with cream or milk.  Add cinnamon and mix well.  
  5. Fold in the additional 2 Tablespoons persimmon pulp.  
  6. Pour into 13 x 9-inch metal pan and bake at 350 °F for 55-60 minutes.  Be careful not to over bake.

Serve with a dollop of whipped cream and enjoy!


Every September, the city of Mitchell, Indiana, hosts the Persimmon Festival. Their persimmon pudding is famous!


This Persimmon Bread recipe comes courtesy of The Old Farmer’s Almanac Readers’ Best Recipes cookbook!

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NE Arkansas 9/27/2015 - All

NE Arkansas 9/27/2015 - All spoons and one knife! Last time we had a knife, had a blizzard.

I've got spoons here as well

I've got spoons here as well as of 9/22/15.

Can we post pics here?

We don't grow persimmons in

We don't grow persimmons in Wyoming.

Hope all these predictions

Hope all these predictions are right. I love snow!!

We live close to Tulsa, OK

We live close to Tulsa, OK and cut two seeds open and both had spoons. Our local weatherman does his winter forecast using the persimmons seeds and Farmer's Almanac. He gets it right every time!

what an idiot ! Where did he

what an idiot ! Where did he study meteorology

Arlington Tn, I have 3

Arlington Tn, I have 3 persimmon trees, and every seed I have opened have been a spoon.

Here in Brighton Illinois the

Here in Brighton Illinois the seeds are all spoons this year. I guess winter will be snowy and cold.

my tree here in California

my tree here in California has great fuyu persimmon fruit you can eat right off the tree like a pear , very few of the fruits have seeds , maybe 1 out of 50 and just one seed if that....

How does this comment relate

How does this comment relate to the topic or help anyone who reads it?

No seeds in CA, no winter in

No seeds in CA, no winter in CA.

One knife and 4 spoons in

One knife and 4 spoons in Lacey Springs, Alabama

Guess its going to be a bad

Guess its going to be a bad winter for Chattanooga,Tn... I opened 10 seeds they were all spoons!

I live in southeast mo and

I live in southeast mo and have seen many seeds opened up and all have been spoons. Last year they were knives. I believe that it might be an actual thing guess we will see...

Where would I find one I live

Where would I find one I live in Excelsior Springs, MO Can I grow them in a Pot?

Persimmon trees can grown in

Persimmon trees can grown in plant hardiness zones 4 through 9. A pot would not be adequate for growing because the tree can grow up to 60 feet tall and 25 to 30 feet wide.

You can grow it in a pot. Or

You can grow it in a pot. Or small space. Where I live in Ca. The local nursery has been defying that rule. Its called a ladderless orchard. Or you can plant in.ground 2 ft. apart. You only prune on the following holidays. Memorial Day/ 4th of July/ and Labor Day. Its wonderfull. You dont get as much fruit. But who can eat all the fruit. Half falls on the ground. So less waste. You have alot of varieties to have fruit from May to November. And since the branches are not as long no broken branches and no ladder to fall from. And it only takes an hour or two to prune the whole orchard. Try it and have fun.

I believe in the persimmons

I believe in the persimmons seed perdiction.

Plentiful in Corydon, IN We

Plentiful in Corydon, IN

We have only three trees at our home in Indiana. I have never seen the abundance of fruit still hanging and falling from these trees! And, they are more beautiful this year than I have ever taken note of before. I wish I liked them. Folks here love persimmon pie and pudding, but it's not something I can acquire the taste for. I love all sorts of foods. Intending to look for a bread or loaf recipe. Surely there is some way I can learn to appreciate their flavor. I understand they are highly medicinal, and that is typically an incentive for me. But alas, I have failed to appreciate the flavor of persimmon regardless of its benefits. We have gallons upon gallons of these off of three trees! I'm a farm gal from girlhood, and love the art of preserving. It saddens me, as I'm sure it does The Lord, to see them go to waste! So from Corydon, Indiana ... snuggle up, folks, it's going to be a frozen wet winter! Just in time for my new multifaceted mystery novel - "Grandma's Jewels and the Legacy Behind Them." Go to Amazon and get your copy. Then, get the fire going and read, read, read! It's a "Gone with the Wind"/"Legends of the Fall" thriller with a twist! Your favorite persimmon recipe, a cup of coffee/tea, and Grandma Grace! That's the way to beat this winter!

I don't like them either but

I don't like them either but I make one out of them and it's awesome

"It saddens me as i'm sure it

"It saddens me as i'm sure it does the Lord to see them go to waste".... absolutely not true. Deer love them as well as turtles, possums, rabbits, coons, rodents such as squirrels, moles, even coyotes. Ive seen this first hand as I was raised on farm all my life in TN. So dont fret, God takes care of his animals :)

Why not donate the excess to

Why not donate the excess to your local Food Banks???
Or advertise in your local paper for free pickup of the fruit????

My mother in law purchased

My mother in law purchased and planted a male and female tree in my back yard. It is FULL of fruit this year. BUT - according to one of the comments above, the male tree doesn't grown fruit. Needed for fertization. BOTH of mine have fruit, the male is smaller and has less fruit and I did a jolly good job trimming the heck out of the trees this summer. I know - wrong time but they were so overgrown and they were FULL of fruit at that point. I'm moving within the next 6 months to my family ancestral home (restoring it)...and will be planting at least 4 of these trees....for the fruit and shade. One sad pear tree at the farmhouse...planted the day Great Uncle Jack was born in 1905. Need some Peach trees too. :)

I live in SW Mississippi and

I live in SW Mississippi and the house I just moved into has a Persimmon Tree in the back yard. I heard about the seeds predicting the winter so I cut 6 in half. I hope these seeds know what they are talking about because we need a good hearty winter here. The seeds were all spoons so looks like I need to purchase a snow shovel before everyone else does.

Could you tell me how you cut

Could you tell me how you cut the seeds open without cutting yourself? We have a tree that is on our back lot ( we didn't plant it), all of the fruit is up high on the tree, I was able to knock one off using a big stick, the others are to high up to get. It had 5/6 seeds in it ( Is it normal for one fruit to have that many seeds in it?), I tried everything I could think of to get the seeds open, they were very hard seeds and I 1st tried a knife point and a grapefruit utensil, but they were so hard I was afraid I'd cut myself, I then tried pliers but it crushed the seed to where I couldn't identify what was inside. I would appreciate any info. Thank You

Just make sure that the

Just make sure that the persimmon is very ripe. Mine have all been very easy to cut open. I live in Missouri.

If the persimmons are

If the persimmons are ripe,open and obtain the seeds. Wash them well and place the seed in your mouth and bite the seed, as you would a sunflower seed. You put the seed in with the edges against your teeth and when it cracks.... you can remove and open with fingernails!

Northwest, North

Northwest, North Carolina
Hubby just opened a persimmon seed ... A spoon for us :-)

In which direction do I cut

In which direction do I cut the seeds?

We have several persimmon

We have several persimmon trees and coyotes all over our farm. When we walk in the AM our frontage road is black toped and we are constantly finding their scat with persimmon seeds in it. Who knew?