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I'm always amused by the religious who want science to prove their faith. Being an astronomer myself, I'm frequently asked by the faithful what various astronomical events mentioned in this faith book or another might have been. In other words, you're asking me to provide proof in the form of a natural explanation for what is, pretty much by dint of it being mentioned in your faith book, a supernatural (i.e., inexplicable by natural laws) event? If it can not be explained by natural laws then it can have no "proof" in any rational sense. If you have faith, you should have no need of proof. If you have proof, then you have no need of faith. Proof is the opposite of faith so please be careful about what you're asking to be proved lest others presume you have no faith. If you want to continue to enjoy the supernatural story of "The Star of Bethlehem", please stop asking for a natural explanation.
Your explanation of faith and proof is wonderful! Fully agree!!
Call me old fashioned, however I think it was an Angel from heaven given the one assignment of lighting the way to the Lord Jesus Christ, so the magi could find him as well as the shepherds because we read in Luke where a host Angels announce his arrival to the shepherds
1. The king planet, Jupiter, does full retrograde around the king star, Regulus, THREE TIMES. King... King... King. All of this in Leo the Lion. Think Lion of Judah. While Jupiter frequently passes Regulus (about every one or two decades), this time it encircles it THREE TIMES. This is unique. All this as seen from both Jerusalem and "in the east" (probably near Babylon, from where the Magi may have hailed). The Magi would immediately have recognized the significance based on the Torah prophecy of the Messiah found in Genesis 49:9-10, which was one of the very first prophecies of Christ's coming ever given by God.
2. Simultaneously we see part of the sign in Revelation 12. A woman clothed with the sun with the moon at her feet. On this date the moon was at her feet and she was clothed with the sun as can be seen in the above image.
3. This wasn't just any moon. It was a new moon.
4. And, to top it all off, this date happens to be Rosh Hashanah - the Jewish New Year, also called the Feast of Trumpets.
Jesus likely born on June 17th, 2 BC:
1. It was exactly 40 weeks later, to the day, from September 11th, 3 BC. In medical thought, a perfect pregnancy. 38-42 weeks is a perfect pregnancy window.
2. The king planet, Jupiter, and the mother planet, Venus, merge in conjunction to become the brightest star/planet that anyone at that time had EVER seen. This conjunction is beyond rare, to say the very least. Jupiter and Venus are the two brightest lights in the night sky apart from the moon. This would thus fulfill Isaiah 9:2, both in the heavens (via Jupiter and Venus), and on the earth with Christ's birth, for at this very moment human eyes first see the incarnate God in flesh.
3. The king planet, Jupiter, had traveled through the sky from the east, to the west, without stopping, over the course of these nine months and is in conjunction with Venus right over Jerusalem.
4. This happened right at the heart of Leo the Lion... Lion of Judah.
The magi likely visit the six-month old Jesus on December 25th, 2 BC:
1. On December 25th, 2 BC, the king planet, which had been traveling from the east for the past 15 months WITHOUT STOPPING, finally STOPS (enters retrograde) DIRECTLY over the town of Bethlehem. On December 25th, 2 BC, if one were looking at Jerusalem's night sky, Jupiter would appear in the south-southwest, directly above Bethlehem.
2. In the Bible, the Greek word used for the child the magi find is "padion", which is more like "toddler" (not "infant"). This also explains why Herod has all the male children under two years of age killed. If Jesus was a newly born child, he could have been more specific in his order.
more info: bethlehemstar.com/
research tool: sourceforge.net/projects/stellarium/files/
Credit: unsealed.org/2012/12/gods-redemptive-calendar-shocking-story.html
Everyone wants a clean cut scientific answer to this - there is none. God was in charge when this occurred. Why can't people just live on faith and leave it alone?
Amen,
I agree
As a child fascinated with both religion and astronomy, I postulated that a comet had been caught into a geosynchronous orbit. I even cut out a white cardboard comet that was used on our family tree for years.
The problem is that such an orbit requires an object to be above the equator. This means that magi would have only a longitude if the object was meant to pinpoint a terrestrial location. But of course there is no equatorial route from the East to that longitude, and without a knowledge of geography West and South of the levant to backtrack into Africa, they would have concluded Jerusalem to be roughly the closest major city to that point. Or perhaps the star (comet) was first viewed at a particular declination that became the declared latitude of their journey's end.
My faith doesn't require a scientific explanation any more than the other way around, but I find there is very often a plausible cause that satisfies both realms. Perhaps this is it.
I'm married now and my children are grown. Maybe it's time to make a new cardboard cutout ...
I would think that the "star" or "light in the sky" was an Angel from YAHWEH since an Angel also appeared to the shepherds. And remember the "pillar of fire" that guided the Israelites during their journey in the desert? There was an Angel involved in that also. jus' sayin'.
Simple answer: I don't know...and as satisfying as it would be to find a definitive answer, in the long run, it doesn't really matter that we are unlikely to do so. The two major possibilities have to do with historic/cultural context (more in a minute) and perhaps a comet. Many scholars believe that the Magis' journey may have taken up to two years. I've not heard of a comet visible for that long, but they are often visible for several months. From our earthbound perspective, their travel appears slow, and then their journey carries them away from earth, out of our sight. Possibility two: it is a metaphor (which people in that time and place regarded as equally valid as physical truth. None of them would ever say, "It's just a metaphor." It was (and still is) a way of expressing that which is too large for literal description, and in a culture that regarded the stars as heralds of significant events, use of this image would make perfect sense. Or perhaps it was a literal miraculous presence. Things do happen that we can't explain.
So the Star? Although much beloved, its literal existence is only one relatively minor element in the larger Miracle of Christmas. God chose to join us as a human being, which is the most radical Act of Love imaginable. Other human beings--particularly one young woman--facilitated, proclaimed, and celebrated this love. Alleluia!
have studied human nature/behavior for over 45 years. Was it Aristotle who said, "As Above, So Below?" the truth is we are connected deeply to not only each other on this planet but to the heavens,planets, etc. Astrology assets that planetary cycles affect human behavior. We inherit a 'picture' of the cosmos at birth. We inherit gifts determined the month we are born. The bible speaks of each persons gifts. We are physical human beings existing in a physical Universe, subject to the powerful positive and negative forces of life and the Universe. The purpose of religion has to do with teaching right behavior, learning unconditional love, forgiveness, to develop faith that powers and principalities seen and unseen regulate our lives.Trillions and trillions of atoms make up 'us'. Fluctuations in cosmic cycles affect these cells/atoms. The truth is the rhythms of the Universe DO affect our lives and one can debate the degree. I've observed the lives of hundreds of people famous and not so famous, the cosmic influences see the rise and fall of their lives. Ecclesiastes 3:1-15, "For everything there is a season and a time for every purpose under the sun."Even conceiving children at 'right times' would prevent many problems,illnesses,miscarriages. In my practice I have received over 80 letters of thanks for the wisdom,insights,helpful direction my intelligent understanding of the 'energies' gives a person. Astrology is both Art/Science that explains what ministers,therapists, psychiatrists cannot. I only wish I had all the answers, I don't but for a genuine practitioner, it offers invaluable help to those on their journey of self discovery and understanding the 'why' of events/relationships.
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