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The light is best used end of the day... not everyone gets up early to the point of using the time in the morning... having more light at the end of the day in winter is far more useful for the majority of people. And the whole notion that Standard Time is "right" by some biological sense is goofy... what time of day is what hour is a human notion... the sun doesn't tell us "This is 6am"; some human came up with the definitions and passed it on.
When the clocks change back in the fall it is sad because it is an hour of light lost... for many months it means most of us leave a first shift work day in darkness.
I'm living in Turkey that switched to permanent DST a few years ago. Turkey is located around longitude of 39 degrees (corresponds to a little bit of north of mid USA). During winter children are having hard time waking up and going to school while the sun is not set yet and everywhere is still dark. Also many working class people are facing depression because of going to work while it is still dark like night. It becomes worse in bigger cities like Istanbul or Ankara (consider New York for example).
Yes, children get some outdoors play time in the evening but it is not that useful because going that north, winters start to be really cold for outside play, especially in inner regions. I wonder if that worths waking the children and working people up in the dark.
Another very important point is, in winter while permanent DST allows business owners to save energy while it causes households to consume more energy. Because households need to use their lights when preparing for school or work in the morning. Permanent DST in winter is more like transferring where energy is spent from businesses to households. It is not that energy friendly when you transfer energy consumption of a single business to many households of their works. But it still goods look if you only consider the profitability of businesses, where workers spend more instead of them.
The process of switching clocks forward and back unfortunately still make sense in a number of northern locations in the US. In certain locations further south, not so much. The problem is complicated by the fact that by going by geography some locations in the US (such as Indiana and Michigan which should both be in the Central Time Zone) are in the wrong time zone.
Example where it makes sense: NYC. Its shortest daytimes sees the sun rises at about 7:20 AM and set at roughly 4:30 PM. Its longest daytimes see the sun rise at about 5:30 AM and set at about 8:30 PM. If we use DST year round, the sun would rise at 8:20 AM during the winter. If we use EST year round, the sun will rise at about 4:30 AM. When the US had DST year round in the 70s, a common objection raised was that children were going to school in the dark during the winter.
Examples where changing the time does not makes sense: Dallas. Its shortest daytimes sees the sun rises at about 7:30 AM and set at roughly 5:40 PM. Its longest daytimes see the sun rise at about 6:20 AM and set at about 8:40 PM. If we use DST year round, the sun will rise at about 8:30 AM during the winter. However, if we use CST year round, the sun will rise at about 5:20 AM in the summer and set at about 7:40 PM. Dallas, like most of Arizona is typically very hot in the summer. The temperatures aren't quite as high as most of Arizona but it experiences higher humidity. For states such as Texas and Oklahoma, which experiences these hot summers, staying on CST year-round makes the most sense.
In short, based on geography the practice of changing the clocks forward and back should be kept in certain areas but not others.
Let's stop changing the clocks let's leave to daylight saving time all year round
Please look at the real history of permanent DST. It always fails and is not healthy. Standard Time is the natural and healthy choice since it is based on the natural rhythm of the sun. Make Standard Time permanent.
The darkest and coldest days of the year are the hardest to work on a farm. The water is frozen and the ground is too. Daylight Saving Time in winter would force me to work my farm nearly three hours before sunrise since I am a full time educator "by day." This would be the equivalent of working the farm at 2:30 am in June, which no one would ever thinks makes sense. Yet that's the reality construction workers, ag workers, and any others who are outside (include child bus riders) would be forced to contend with if DST were further extended. It's bad enough as it is, in March and October. Let's not make things worse. It's not all about the sunset, folks. Winter days are simply shorter no matter what the clock says.
With all due respect, please look deeper into this issue. Permanent DST is promoted by cherry-picked studies from lobbyists for golf and retail to increase spending. It is opposed by advocates for health, safety, education, and civil liberties—including the National Safety Council, National PTA, and American Academy of Sleep Medicine—who endorse instead permanent Standard Time. Standard Time is the real time, defined by the sun. DST darkens and shortens mornings, when farmers need light most. More information is at SaveStandardTime.com, and I’d be glad to converse directly by email or phone. Thank you!
Your article states, “In 2020, Utah passed a bill to end the practice of “springing forward”.”
If they wanted to stop springing forward, that means they would stay on standard time. But reading on in the article, you can surmise that is NOT what they want. They want to spring forward and stay there, keeping DST as their time year round. They don’t want to end the practice of springing forward, they want to end the practice of falling back.
As much clarity as possible could only help this debate, as I have read numerous comments on this article alone where people are arguing a particular side, but are actually misnaming their argument so that they are arguing for the side they are opposed to, all because they don’t know which is which, DST or standard.
Thank you for your consideration, and for providing this information.
For the record, I haven’t decided if I’m pro DST or standard, but I do want to stop changing the clock.
Make the kids get up earlier if they want to play more. It's also safer to be on standard time. When kids are outside waiting for the bus, at 7:00 AM, on Standard time, it's already light out and therefore kids are not as likely to be hit by cars. During daylight savings time, it's still dark at 7 AM. Plus, you don't really get more sunlight. People who want more sunlight is really going to feel like retards if this passes when December 21st comes and they find out that it's dark by 6 PM anyway.
Growing up in the northeast it was dark at 4:00pm much of the winter which was terrible. I live in the south now but still would be happy for more sun in the winter. So DST only please!
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