Predicting Weather Using a Persimmon Seed

What Does Your Persimmon Seed Reveal?

September 10, 2020

According to traditional weather folklore, you can predict winter weather with a persimmon seed. Here’s how to do it! Plus, enjoy recipes for persimmon pudding and persimmon bread.

What Is a Persimmon?

Persimmons are small orange fruits that are about as big as a plum or a peach, depending on the type of persimmon. American persimmon trees (Diospyros virginiana) can be found growing wild in USDA Zones 4 to 9, while Japanese persimmon trees (Diospyros kaki) thrive in only the warmer part of that range—Zones 7 to 9. Although the American trees are more widespread, they are not as prized for their fruit, which is smaller and of lesser quality than that of the Japanese persimmon.

They are comparatively less well known than fruits like plums and apples, but persimmons can be seen in grocery stores and farmers’ markets across the U.S. during the autumn season. Before they’re ripe, the fruit has a very astringent taste, but this mellows as the fruit softens. Persimmons are also packed with Vitamin A!

For the purposes of weather forecasting, you’ll want to get your hands on an American persimmon, as most Japanese persimmon varieties are seedless. Try local farmers’ markets or regional grocers first, as they’re more likely to have a local persimmon in stock.

Persimmons in tree

How to Predict Weather With a Persimmon Seed

1. Find a locally-grown persimmon. (A locally-grown persimmon is necessary because it will reflect local conditions!) Wait to pick the fruit or cut into the fruit until after it gets a bit soft—almost mushy.

2. Open the fruit and cut open a persimmon seed. 


4. Look at the shape of the kernel inside:

  • If the kernel is spoon-shaped, expect plenty of snow to shovel.
  • If it is fork-shaped, plan on a mild winter with powdery, light snow.
  • If the kernel is knife-shaped, expect frigid winds that will “cut” like a blade.

That’s all there is to it! Now, cut open a persimmon and tell us what you see in the comments below. Don’t forget to include your location, too!

Here’s a close-up of a spoon. Get out the shovel!

Persimmon Seed Split Open
Photo credit: Tammie Dooley/

Another favorite tradition for predicting winter weather is to use a woolly bear caterpillar.

Or, check out how The Old Farmer’s Almanac predicts the weather!

Persimmon Recipes

Persimmons have a unique fall flavor that is similar to pumpkin. Most persimmons are the “hachiya” variety. The fruit is very tart, so it’s often considered a baking fruit, adding its sweet flavor and moistness to pudding, bread, and pie. Persimmons can also be made into dried fruit, jam, ice cream, and even alcohol.

A ripe persimmon has a “squishy” body and a creamy texture. Ripen persimmons at room temperature. Place in a paper bag to speed up ripening.

Persimmon Pudding

Persimmon pudding is a baked dessert with the taste of pumpkin and the texture of gingerbread. This persimmon pudding recipe is from the “Indiana Nut Growers Cookbook” (1995), courtesy of the Indiana Nutgrowers Association.  


2 Cups persimmon pulp
2 Cups sugar
3 small eggs
½ stick (4 Tablespoons) margarine
1 teaspoon baking soda
½ Cup buttermilk
1-¾ Cups sweet cream (or milk)
1 teaspoon cinnamon
2 Tablespoons additional persimmon pulp
1-¾ Cups flour
1 teaspoon baking powder


  1. Mix together the persimmon pulp, sugar and eggs.  
  2. Mix baking soda with buttermilk and add to mixture in bowl.  
  3. Melt margarine in baking pan and add to mixture.
  4. Sift flour and baking powder together and add alternately with cream or milk.  Add cinnamon and mix well.  
  5. Fold in the additional 2 Tablespoons persimmon pulp.  
  6. Pour into 13 x 9-inch metal pan and bake at 350 °F for 55-60 minutes.  Be careful not to over bake.

Serve with a dollop of whipped cream and enjoy!

In September, the city of Mitchell, Indiana, hosts the Persimmon Festival. Their persimmon pudding is famous!

This Persimmon Bread recipe comes courtesy of The Old Farmer’s Almanac Readers’ Best Recipes cookbook.

Have you tried predicting the weather with a persimmon? Let us know what shape you found in your persimmon seed in the comments below!


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Persimmon Seeds prediction in Sonora, Ky

In all 8 seeds that I opened on Thanksgiving 2019 revealed spoons!!

Wild Persimmons In Theodosia, Missouri Nov. 2019

Spoons in our neck of the woods.

Persimmon - Moore, Ok

We saw spoons!!!

Persimmon seeds in upstate South Carolina

Our seeds here show spoons!! Hoping for at least one big snow this winter!

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Cut open a persimmon and the seed . It was a spoon !!
My persimmon was a fuyu not the kind you mentioned .
We’re in the Central Valley of California . The persimmon came from my friends tree in Stockton .

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Found a spoon in ours around Toronto, Kansas

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Our seeds are spoons...…….get ready for snow!

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I cut one up and couldnt see any seeds.

No Seeds

Same here in East Texas !! First time in 20 years !! Wonder what that means.

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I cut open 6 persimmon seeds. All spoons. Get out the snow shovel.

KCMO Persimmon Seed Forecast

Stopped at 8 seeds. All Spoons! Came from a wild Persimmon tree, ripe persimmons in Kansas City, MO


Eastern Oklahoma...i just several spoons...

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Glencoe,’s a spoon.

Persimon seed i live im Missouri iron county

There was double spoons in 5 out of 8 seeds what would that mean?

two spoons

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Interesting! We don’t believe that the folklore covers that scenario. Our best guess would be that double spoons predicts a winter where you will need a friend with an extra shovel to help clear away the snow!

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I had 8 seeds 5 out 8 had double spoons what does that mean?

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Here 30 miles southeast of Wichita Kansas I opened seeds from 3 sweet plump wild persimmons. Spoons in all...just like last year. Shovel is already in the shed.


I cut open 10 seeds in Central Kentucky and they were all spoons! I believe I will go find my snow shovel!

Persimmon seed

I cut open my persimmon seed & inside there was a knife. Looks like frigid wind for us here in central Indiana.

Spoons in our persimmons

We Cut open six seeds here in Winfield Missouri, and they were all spoons. Last year we had spoons as well, and an abundant, above average amount of snow fell.


Cut open several seeds near Asheville, NC -- they were all seeds!


I cut open 10 seeds on Sept 24,2019
They were all spoons.


Puxico, Mo September 22, 2019. Our persimmon tree seeds show “shovels” indicating we will shovel a lot of snow this winter!


Opened up to a spoon! Wills Point, Texas

2019 Weather prediction with a persimmon

This year looks like a knife for Wright City, Missouri. Yikes! What a fun experiment, let’s see if it’s true

Persimmon seed Pontotoc, MS

We found a spoon in Pontotoc, Mississippi. The tree was in our back yard.

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Here in Sw. Mo. cracked 3 seeds all spoons they are very sweet this year

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Opened 2 seed near Benton Kentucky. Both were spoons

opened several persimmon seeds and they all have the spoon

the persimmons came off a tree in Garland TX 75040