Predicting Weather Using a Persimmon Seed

What Does Your Persimmon Seed Reveal?

September 1, 2021

According to traditional weather folklore, you can predict winter weather with a persimmon seed. Here’s how to do it! Plus, enjoy recipes for persimmon pudding and persimmon bread.

What Is a Persimmon?

Persimmons are small orange fruits that are about as big as a plum or a peach, depending on the type of persimmon. American persimmon trees (Diospyros virginiana) can be found growing wild in USDA Zones 4 to 9, while Japanese persimmon trees (Diospyros kaki) thrive in only the warmer part of that range—Zones 7 to 9. Although the American trees are more widespread, they are not as prized for their fruit, which is smaller and of lesser quality than that of the Japanese persimmon.

They are comparatively less well known than fruits like plums and apples, but persimmons can be seen in grocery stores and farmers’ markets across the U.S. during the autumn season. Before they’re ripe, the fruit has a very astringent taste, but this mellows as the fruit softens. Persimmons are also packed with Vitamin A!

For the purposes of weather forecasting, you’ll want to get your hands on an American persimmon, as most Japanese persimmon varieties are seedless. Try local farmers’ markets or regional grocers first, as they’re more likely to have a local persimmon in stock.

Persimmons in tree

How to Predict Weather With a Persimmon Seed

1. Find a locally-grown persimmon. (A locally-grown persimmon is necessary because it will reflect local conditions!) Wait to pick the fruit or cut into the fruit until after it gets a bit soft—almost mushy.

2. Open the fruit and cut open a persimmon seed. 


4. Look at the shape of the kernel inside:

  • If the kernel is spoon-shaped, expect plenty of snow to shovel.
  • If it is fork-shaped, plan on a mild winter with powdery, light snow.
  • If the kernel is knife-shaped, expect frigid winds that will “cut” like a blade.

That’s all there is to it! Now, cut open a persimmon and tell us what you see in the comments below. Don’t forget to include your location, too!

Here’s a close-up of a spoon. Get out the shovel!

Persimmon Seed Split Open
Photo credit: Tammie Dooley/

Another favorite tradition for predicting winter weather is to use a woolly bear caterpillar.

Or, check out how The Old Farmer’s Almanac predicts the weather!

Persimmon Recipes

Persimmons have a unique fall flavor that is similar to pumpkin. Most persimmons are the “hachiya” variety. The fruit is very tart, so it’s often considered a baking fruit, adding its sweet flavor and moistness to pudding, bread, and pie. Persimmons can also be made into dried fruit, jam, ice cream, and even alcohol.

A ripe persimmon has a “squishy” body and a creamy texture. Ripen persimmons at room temperature. Place in a paper bag to speed up ripening.

Persimmon Pudding

Persimmon pudding is a baked dessert with the taste of pumpkin and the texture of gingerbread. This persimmon pudding recipe is from the “Indiana Nut Growers Cookbook” (1995), courtesy of the Indiana Nutgrowers Association.  


2 Cups persimmon pulp
2 Cups sugar
3 small eggs
½ stick (4 Tablespoons) margarine
1 teaspoon baking soda
½ Cup buttermilk
1-¾ Cups sweet cream (or milk)
1 teaspoon cinnamon
2 Tablespoons additional persimmon pulp
1-¾ Cups flour
1 teaspoon baking powder


  1. Mix together the persimmon pulp, sugar and eggs.  
  2. Mix baking soda with buttermilk and add to mixture in bowl.  
  3. Melt margarine in baking pan and add to mixture.
  4. Sift flour and baking powder together and add alternately with cream or milk.  Add cinnamon and mix well.  
  5. Fold in the additional 2 Tablespoons persimmon pulp.  
  6. Pour into 13 x 9-inch metal pan and bake at 350 °F for 55-60 minutes.  Be careful not to over bake.

Serve with a dollop of whipped cream and enjoy!

In September, the city of Mitchell, Indiana, hosts the Persimmon Festival. Their persimmon pudding is famous!

This Persimmon Bread recipe comes courtesy of The Old Farmer’s Almanac Readers’ Best Recipes cookbook.

Have you tried predicting the weather with a persimmon? Let us know what shape you found in your persimmon seed in the comments below!


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What's The Magic?

How on EARTH are others managing to cut open such tiny, slippery seeds? Our American persimmon produces good crops each year, but I've NEVER been able to hold a seed firmly enough to get a knife through it!

What's the magic others are using?

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2021 persimmon in Christian Couny Missouri was a knife!

NO seed in my persimmon!

This is first year (2020) for my persimmon tree to produce, and ONLY ONE persimmon! I cut it open this morning and found NO seed! WHAT does this mean for Southeast Texas?! Even though ONLY ONE, this is the BEST & SWEETEST persimmon I have EVER tasted!! NO tartness whatsoever!

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Interesting! Some American persimmon cultivars do indeed produce fruit without seeds. I’m not sure how the weather predicting will work, but glad you enjoyed a nice, sweet piece of fruit!

Persimmon seed/Pocahontas Arkansas

Cut into three seeds all Spoons, bring on the snow!


Live in the state most famous for harboring prison governors; cut five Persimmon Seeds a few weeks ago, all spoons. Oh, for those who are clueless about the state I live in, Southern Illinois.

Persimmon Seed / Keithsburg, Georgia

Spoons for Keithsburg, Georgia. Can't wait!

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I live in South Louisiana. It has only snowed here twice in my lifetime, about 1/2 inch. I found a spoon in the persimmon seed. I might prove it wrong!! It would be a miracle.

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Palmyra, VA. Have cut open 2 seeds - both very clearly spoons. Looks like snow.

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Springfield Missouri. Cut six seeds open .2-forks .2- spoons - 2 knives

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Just cut our seeds tonight and found all spoons in the seeds we checked!
Northeast Georgia--Clarkesville

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I am from Greensboro, NC. I cut three spoons and one knife. Watch out! I’m going to look for lots of snow!

Winter 20/21 persimmon prediction

I found mostly spoons with a few knives in East Tennessee.

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In central Missouri, my wild tree says we are having a lot of snow. It had a spoon in the seeds I opened.

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Ours in SW MO is spoon.

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Found several Spoons this year in 6 different persimmon fruits. Winter is coming fast this year in northern Arkansas/southern Missouri. Break out the snow gear!!

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My persimmons are just starting to ripen and fall from the tree. We have a volunteer American persimmon that we have enjoyed here in Vale, NC for a good numbers of years. Many wonderful recipes, persimmon pudding being the best! Truly a great American treat!

Persimmon Seeds prediction in Sonora, Ky

In all 8 seeds that I opened on Thanksgiving 2019 revealed spoons!!

Wild Persimmons In Theodosia, Missouri Nov. 2019

Spoons in our neck of the woods.

Persimmon - Moore, Ok

We saw spoons!!!

Persimmon seeds in upstate South Carolina

Our seeds here show spoons!! Hoping for at least one big snow this winter!

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Cut open a persimmon and the seed . It was a spoon !!
My persimmon was a fuyu not the kind you mentioned .
We’re in the Central Valley of California . The persimmon came from my friends tree in Stockton .

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Found a spoon in ours around Toronto, Kansas

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Our seeds are spoons...…….get ready for snow!

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I cut one up and couldnt see any seeds.

No Seeds

Same here in East Texas !! First time in 20 years !! Wonder what that means.

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I cut open 6 persimmon seeds. All spoons. Get out the snow shovel.

KCMO Persimmon Seed Forecast

Stopped at 8 seeds. All Spoons! Came from a wild Persimmon tree, ripe persimmons in Kansas City, MO


Eastern Oklahoma...i just several spoons...